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    • #3640 Score: 0
      Ye Zizhao Leon
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      For a qualified letter of recommendation, the first thing is to be objective and pragmatic, and the credibility of the letter of recommendation should be put in the first place. The content of the recommendation letter should not be too specific or too uniform. It is very important to master this degree, otherwise, the credibility of a recommendation letter will be greatly reduced. References are part of the paperwork and should be consistent with your overall positioning. If you focus on the research results in your presentation, the reference letter should use the references to confirm that you are a research-oriented talent. Similarly, some of your characteristics, abilities, achievements, etc. can also be transmitted through the recommendation letter, as side support of your overall image.

      Ye Zizhao Leon

    • #3892 Score: 0
      Fang Yinkan
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      在选择教授作为推荐人时,要注意考虑与他的关系。尽量选择上过他至少两节课的教授,否则他对你的印象可能不够深刻,帮你写出的推荐信会比较空洞宽泛。最好选择一起做过project 或者research的教授,这样推荐信能更加彰显你的优势,内容也会更加丰富,容易让对方学校留下比较深刻的印象。
      When choosing a professor as a reference, be careful to consider your relationship with him. Try to choose a professor who has taught you at least two courses, or he may not be impressed enough and write an empty and broad letter of recommendation for you. It is better to choose a professor who has worked together on a project or research with you. In this way, the recommendation letter can highlight your advantages and enrich the content, which will easily leave a deep impression on the other university.
      Fang Yinkan

    • #4942 Score: 0
      Tong Lisha
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      高校在考察申请同学的推荐信时,更看重的还是推荐信的内容,所以我建议同学们在准备推荐信的时候,还是要找和自己比较熟悉的老师。同时要尽早和老师联系并积极和老师沟通,让老师更好地了解你之前的经历,这样老师才能写出有内容的推荐信,使其成为我们申请的助力。对于已经毕业了的同学来说,要尽早和老师进行邮件沟通,而老师一般也都会乐意帮助我们准备推荐信。
      Universities pay more attention to the content of the recommendation letters when they examine the recommendation letters of applicants. Therefore, I suggest that students still need to find a teacher familiar with them when preparing the recommendation letters. At the same time, we should contact and actively communicate with the teacher as soon as possible, so that the teacher can better understand your previous experience, so that the teacher can write a recommendation letter with content, and make it a help for our application. For those who have already graduated, it is important to communicate with the teacher by email as soon as possible, and the teacher is usually willing to help us prepare the recommendation letter.
      Tong Lisha

    • #6250 Score: 0
      Tracy Song
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      During the application for graduate school, the quality of a recommendation letter matters a lot. A good recommendation letter does not only focus on superficially good words but is closely related to a good personality or an outstanding trait the professor see from you. For instance, while working as a team in the group project, you may show a good leadership or a qualified coordinator. Also, if you can always achieve high grades, the professor may find out that you own a fast learning ability and develop a mature learning method. Those advantages will highlight the recommendation letter. However, to make your professor find out those advantages of you, you need to keep in touch with specific professors. At lease, you should have his or her courses for two semester and keep communicating with him or her such as doing research or otherwise, the recommendation letter will be exactly the same as others and thus have no worthy point for admission committee.

      在申请研究生的时候,一封高质量的推荐信非常重要。一封好的推荐信并不只停留在华丽的词藻,而是更加注重教授从你身上看到的好的品质或者杰出的能力。比如说,在小组作业时候,你可能表现出了杰出的领导能力或者展现了自己突出的协调和沟通能力。也许,教授会发现你有较强的学习能力和独特的学习方法让你一直在课程测验中取得高分。这些突出的能力都会为你的推荐信质量加上分。而如果想要让教授真正的挖掘到你身上的这些优点,你至少需要上两个学期他/她的课,让教授能够深刻的了解你。与教授不断的沟通同时也是非常重要的。否则,对招生老师来说,你的推荐信只会和别人的一模一样,没有任何闪光点可言。

      Tracy Song

    • #6326 Score: 0
      Cheyanne
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      Make sure to give your references at least one month before your earliest deadline to complete and send your letters. The earlier you ask, the better. Many teachers like to write recommendations during the summer. If you apply under early decision or early action plans, you’ll definitely need to ask for recommendations by the start of your senior year or before.
      Remember that some teachers will be writing whole stacks of letters, which takes time. Your teachers will do a better job on your letter if they don’t have to rush.
      Some teachers write many recommendation letters each year. Even if they know you well, it’s a good idea to take some time to speak with them. Make it easy for them to give positive, detailed information about your achievements and your potential by refreshing their memory.
      The link is https://bigfuture.collegeboard.org/get-in/your-high-school-record/how-to-get-a-great-letter-of-recommendation, which says some steps in how to get reference letters.
      请务必在最早截止日期前至少一个月提供您的推荐信,以完成并发送信件。您要求的越早越好。许多老师喜欢在暑假期间写建议。如果您根据早期决策或早期行动计划提出申请,则肯定需要在高年级开始之前或之前提出建议。
      请记住,有些老师会写成堆的信件,这需要时间。如果您的老师不必着急,他们的信件会做得更好。
      一些老师每年写很多推荐信。即使他们很了解您,还是要花一些时间与他们交谈。通过刷新他们的记忆,使他们易于给出有关您的成就和潜力的积极,详细的信息。
      Cheyanne

    • #6841 Score: 0
      jasminesun
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      In the process of applying to graduate schools, letters of recommendation are very important materials, because the comments of the recommenders can reflect and confirm whether the applicant meets the requirements of the graduate school. Letters of recommendation can come from academic professors or employers during internships. In order to demonstrate truthfully and fully what the recommender knows about the applicant, it is best for the applicant to choose a professor who has taken at least two classes or has been involved in their research projects. Otherwise, the recommender will not be able to write something unique and authentic. As for employers, I recommend that applicants demonstrate their professionalism, teamwork, problem solving, innovation, etc., to the fullest extent possible during the internship.
      In addition, communication with professors or employers is very important. They are busy and may need to spend a lot of time writing letters of recommendation. Therefore, it is better for the applicant to contact the recommender one month in advance to express his/her needs clearly and provide the relevant personal data, such as resume, certificates and so on, to help the recommender to have a more comprehensive understanding of himself/herself. When communicating, be polite and don’t urge your referees too often.
      If there is no specific requirement, I would recommend that applicants provide separate references from academic professors and employers to prove that they have excelled in both academic and professional development.
      在申请研究生院校的过程中,推荐信是很重要的材料,因为推荐人的评价可以反映并证实申请人是否符合研究生院校的要求。推荐信可以来自学术教授或实习时的雇主。为了真实、充分地展示推荐人对申请者的了解,申请者最好选择上过至少两节课的教授,或者参与过他们的科研项目的教授,否则推荐人无法写出独特、真实的内容。至于雇主,我建议申请人在实习过程中尽可能充分地展示自己的专业性以及在团队合作、解决问题、创新等方面的能力。
      另外,与教授或雇主的沟通非常重要。他们都很忙,并且有可能需要花很多时间来写推荐信。因此申请人最好提前一个月就联系推荐人,表达清楚自己的需求,并提供相应的个人资料,比如简历、证书等等,来帮助推荐人更全面地了解自己。在沟通时,要注意礼貌,不要频繁催促推荐人。
      如果学校没有明确的要求,我建议申请人分别提供学术教授和雇主的推荐信,来证明自己在学术和职业发展方面都很出色。

      Here is a website about the tips and skills about asking for a recommendation letter via email, including some expression methods and examples: https://www.zippia.com/advice/letter-of-recommendation-over-email/

      Jasmine Sun

    • #7002 Score: 0
      Amy Shi
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      About the recommendation letter, I think two copies should be prepared.One is from a professor who knows you well, and the other is from the company where you interned.You should talk to your the professor in advance so that he or she can write a letter of recommendation that highlights your strengths.These two letters of recommendation can show your academic performance in school and your ability in the job, which I think will improve your chances of being admitted

      关于推荐信,我认为应当准备两份。一份是来自学校中非常熟悉熟悉你的教授,另一份是来自于你实习过的公司。 在准备这两份推荐信时,你应当提前和你的教授沟通,以便于她写出的推荐信能够满足你的要求并且能够突出你的特长。 这两份推荐信一封能够突出你在学校的学术表现,另一封能够突出你在工作中的能力。我认为这会大大提高被录取的概率。

      Boya Shi

    • #7005 Score: 0
      Kkkeelly
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      A letter of recommendation is a document designed to add extra weight and merit to a job or college application. They are usually written by a supervisor, colleague, or professor. There are three main types of recommendation letters–employment, university applications, and character references. Here the letter I introduce is a recommendation letter for university applications.
      Apply for university, graduate school, or scholarship. Almost every university program requires at least two recommendation letters for their application process. Through the recommendation letters, universities have the chance to know more about the student. From the recommendation letter, they are able to know the interpersonal relationship. communication skills and other soft skills. By requiring recommendation letters, the application process will be more holistic. The university can know the whole student, not just GPA. They can know more aspects like personality, values, and goals.
      Link:https://www.postgraduate.study.cam.ac.uk/how-do-i-apply/supporting-documentation/academic-documentation
      Here is a link from Cambridge university about the requirement of a recommendation letter. Here the recommendation letter is been called an academic reference. students need to give the details of two referees who can provide academic references written in English. And there is a chart for more details about people who wrote the letter for students. It divides the requirements into three categories, depending on the student’s situation. Basically, we belong to the first situation that students are currently studying (or have recently finished studying) at the undergraduate level. Students need two tutors from their undergraduate degree course.
      推荐信是旨在为工作或大学申请增加额外的价值和优点的文档。它们通常由主管,同事或教授撰写。推荐信主要分为三种类型:就业,大学申请和性格推荐。在这里,我介绍的这封信是大学申请的推荐信。
      申请大学,研究生院或奖学金。几乎每个大学课程的申请过程都至少需要两个推荐信。通过推荐信,大学有机会了解更多有关学生的信息。通过推荐信,他们能够了解人际关系。沟通技巧和其他软技能。通过要求推荐信,申请过程将更加全面。大学不仅可以了解GPA,还可以了解整个学生。他们可以了解更多方面,例如个性,价值观和目标。
      链接:https://www.postgraduate.study.cam.ac.uk/how-do-i-apply/supporting-documentation/academic-documentation
      这是剑桥大学有关推荐信要求的链接。推荐信在这里被称为学术参考。学生需要提供两名裁判员的详细信息,他们可以提供用英语编写的学术推荐信。还有一张图表,提供了有关写给学生的信的人的更多详细信息。它根据学生的情况将要求分为三类。基本上,我们属于学生目前正在大学学习(或最近完成学习)的第一种情况。学生的本科学位课程需要两名导师。
      Kkkeelly

    • #7013 Score: 0
      roey
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      As for the letter of recommendation, I think we should consider the following aspects: the content of the letter of recommendation, the professor’s teaching major, the relationship between students and professors and the professor’s professional title. One of the most important is the relationship between students and professors. Only when the teacher really understands you, can he write a rich recommendation letter for you according to your characteristics. Secondly, the teacher’s teaching major is also very important. If you are a business student, the recommendation letter written by an English teacher is not so convincing. If all of these are met, we can compare the title of the teacher or the graduate school, and choose a better one.
      关于推荐信,我认为要从以下几个方面考虑:推荐信的内容,老师的授课专业,老师对学生的了解程度和老师的职称。而其中最重要的就是老师对学生的了解程度。只有老师真正的了解你,他才能针对你的特点为你写出内容丰富的推荐信。其次,老师的授课专业也很重要,如果你是商科的学生,那么一个教英语的老师给你写的推荐信就不是那么有说服力。如果这些都满足,我们就可以再对老师的职称或者毕业院校进行比较,选择一个更好的。

      Roey

    • #7158 Score: 0
      JCL_Tony
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      It is widely believed that students should ask the professor who graduated from a famous university for a recommendation letter. However, this point of view is limited. From my perspective, the recommendation letter should be considered in three aspects: relation, connection, and major. Above all, as for the relation, you should consider the professor you are familiar with. If you have taken only one course taught by the professor, a professor does not know you well and cannot write the recommendation letter’s appropriate content; an effective content in the recommendation letter is really important, accurately showing your personality, ability, and others. What is more, you should also find the recommendation letter closely related to the program you are applying for. The more connection between the recommendation letter and the program, the more chance you will have for entry. Last but not least, based on the previous two steps, you need also consider the major. Different majors ask students to search for a professor with the same or similar major, showing you have a good command of the knowledge in your major with good learning ability. If you want to learn more detailed information, please click the following link: https://7sage.com/admissions/lesson/how-to-pick-your-recommenders/. Thanks for your listening.

      大家经常说学生应该向毕业于著名大学的教授索取推荐信。但是,这种观点是局限的。我认为,推荐信应从三个方面考虑:关系,联系和专业。最重要的是,对于关系,您应该考虑您熟悉的教授。如果您只参加了教授讲授的一门课程,那么教授就不会对您很了解,也无法写出推荐信的适当内容;推荐信中的有效内容非常重要,准确显示您的个性,能力和其他方面。此外,您还应该找到与您申请的计划紧密相关的推荐信。推荐信和程序之间的联系越多,您进入的机会就越大。最后但并非最不重要的一点是,基于前面的两个步骤,您还需要考虑你自己的专业。不同的专业要求学生寻找具有相同或相似专业的教授,这表明您对本专业的知识掌握得很好,并且具有良好的学习能力。如果您想了解更多详细信息,请单击以下链接:https://7sage.com/admissions/lesson/how-to-pick-your-recommenders/。感谢您的收听。

      JCL_Tony

    • #7251 Score: 0
      Lareina
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      Recommendation letters are an important part of the postgraduate application process. Because schools will not only look at grades and resumes to determine the quality of students. The school also wants to know how you feel about your experience, talents and personality. The average graduate school asks for two or three letters of recommendation from applicants. You need to find the right people to help write the letters of recommendation. It is better to be a professor of your major, they are familiar with you. Most importantly, when asking your professors to write a letter of recommendation, you should inform them of your intention, so that it will be more relevant to the school you are applying to.

      How Important are Letters of Recommendation for Graduate School Applications?

      推荐信是一个很重要的环节在研究生的申请过程中。因为学校不会仅仅看成绩以及履历来确定学生的素质。学校还希望通过了解个人对于你的经验,才智和个性的评价。一般的研究生院校回要求申请者提供两到三封推荐信。你需要找到合适的人去帮助写推荐信。最好是你专业的教授,他们对于你比较熟悉。最重要的是请求你的教授写推荐信时,需要告知他们你的意图,这样能够跟你申请的学校更加的匹配。
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    • #7353 Score: 0
      Connie 0718
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      I think a good letter of recommendation is helpful for us to apply to graduate university. It’s better to find a professor who is familiar with you and who is related to the major you want to apply for to write you a letter of recommendation. The professor who is familiar with you can better highlight your advantages in the letter of recommendation, and the content will be more rich and authentic. If you are just looking for a strange professor to help you write a recommendation letter, then the role of the recommendation letter may not be very big, because the recommendation letter lacks real emotion. In addition, please find a professor who is related to the major you want to apply for to write a letter of recommendation for you. For example, if the major you want to apply for is accounting, please ask an accounting professor to write a letter of recommendation for you.
      Actually, in college life, we should not only study hard but also keep close contact with professors. Therefore, the professor can help you better.
      我认为一封好的推荐信有助于我们申请研究生院。最好找一个熟悉你的、与你想申请的专业有关系的教授给你写推荐信。熟悉你的教授可以在推荐信中更好地突出你的优点,内容也会更加丰富和真实。如果你只是找一个陌生的教授帮你写推荐信,那么推荐信的作用可能不是很大,因为推荐信缺乏真实的情感。另外,请找一位与你申请专业相关的教授为你写一封推荐信。例如,如果你想申请的专业是会计学,请让会计学教授为你写一封推荐信。
      其实,在大学生活中,我们不仅要努力学习,还要与教授保持密切联系。这样,教授才可以更好地帮助你。
      Wang Kangyi Connie0718

    • #7357 Score: 0
      lumos
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      If a professor with a high reputation abroad is willing to write you a letter of recommendation, then your offer is almost ready. But the fact is that many teachers have not been active in international conferences in this field for a long time, and have no international reputation. Therefore, the key to the recommendation letter is to find an enthusiastic and relatively good professor.
      如果有在国外有较高的知名度的教授愿意给你写推荐信,那你的offer几乎就到手了。但事实情况是很多老师其实早就不活跃在本领域的国际会议上,在国际上没有知名度,所以推荐信关键是找个热心的、相对来说履历优秀的教授即可。

    • #7517 Score: 0
      13Lee
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      There are some things to pay attention to when writing a recommendation letter. First of all, the letter of recommendation must be brief and clear, not too long. More than one page of a letter of recommendation is not good. Secondly, if the person who writes the letter of recommendation is your relative, don’t indicate your blood relationship in the letter of recommendation. Because blood relationship will make people think that your excellence does not come from your own efforts. There are a lot of format problems and English grammar problems to pay attention to. You can read the links for help.
      Link:https://www.zhihu.com/question/420636792/answer/1467282382
      写推荐信的时候有一些地方是需要注意的。首先,推荐信一定要简介明了,不能太长。超过一页的推荐信是不好的。其次,如果写推荐信的人是你的亲戚,就不要在推荐信中表明你的血缘关系。因为血缘关系会让人认为你的优秀不是来自于自己的努力。还有很多格式问题以及英语语法问题需要注意。你可以阅读一下链接来获得帮助。
      13Lee

    • #7881 Score: 0
      Alvin_Zheng
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      The recommendation letter is required no matter in the U.S. or UK, usually for the school in America, they ask at least two letters, one comes from your major professor. For example, I am the finance major, so I must have a recommendation letter from my finance instructor and another one from other staff like management professor. Besides, if we could have one more letter from our internship instructor, it could be better, especially from the first internship, because it shows that you perform well even if it was the first internship.
      When we ask for recommendation letter on campus, it is better to choose the professor that is familiar with you, which means at least you should take two of his or her lessons and try to perform well.
      无论在美国还是英国,推荐信都是必须的,通常美国的学校会要求至少两封推荐信,一封来自你的专业教授。例如,我是金融专业的,所以我必须要有我的金融指导老师的推荐信,以及另一封来自其他专业老师如管科教授的推荐信。此外,如果我们能再得到一封实习指导老师的信,那就更好了,尤其是来自首次实习的老师,因为这表明即使是第一次实习,你的表现也很好。当我们在学校要求推荐信时,我们需要选择和我们相对熟悉的教授,这意味着我们需要至少上过他的课程并得到相对理想的成绩。
      (Alvin_Zheng)

    • #8577 Score: 0
      PanZiyi
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      推荐信是西方文化的重要组成部分。西方求职文化中从求职者的领导或者身边人的角度对求职者进行推荐,留学申请的推荐信也是如此。考虑到学生对自己的评价难免不够客观,招生官会希望能够从第三方的角度客观地了解申请者的情况。所以从本质上来说,留学申请过程中的推荐信就是推荐人对申请者的一种主观评价,他的可信度和价值受到推荐人职位,个人诚信和声誉的影响。所以推荐信的作者和内容以及态度会成为招生官重要的参考部分。
      Recommendation letters are an important part of Western culture. In the Western job hunting culture, job seekers are recommended from the perspective of the job seeker’s leader or the people around them, and the same applies to the recommendation letter for studying abroad. Considering that students’ evaluations of themselves are inevitably not objective enough, admissions officers hope to objectively understand the situation of applicants from the perspective of a third party. So in essence, the letter of recommendation in the application process for studying abroad is a subjective evaluation of the applicant by the recommender. His credibility and value are affected by the position of the recommender, personal integrity and reputation. Therefore, the author, content and attitude of the recommendation letter will become an important reference part for admissions officers.
      PanZiyi

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      lumos
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      The recruiter looks at the recommendation letter:
      First glance: look at the recommender’s head and background
      Second eye: look at the main body and details of the recommendation letter
      The third eye: see if the recommendation and other application materials are harmonious
      招生官看推荐信:
      第一眼:瞄推荐人的抬头和背景
      第二眼:看推荐信的主体和细节
      第三眼:看推荐和其他申请材料是不是和谐
      https://www.zhihu.com/question/338908888/answer/1258041502

      Juno

    • #9252 Score: 0
      ashrike
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      About the letter of recommendation, I have to say that it’s easy for us to attain it. You know that most of our professors are foreigners, it’s convenient for us to ask them to help us write a recommendation letter. I have searched some information about the recommednation. The content is roughly divided into two parts, personal information and recommednation. To make it better, we should make much effort to join some exam like IELTS and GRE or GMAT.
      关于推荐信,我不得不说,我们很容易做到它。你知道我们的教授大部分都是外国人,我们可以很方便地请他们帮我们写推荐信。我搜索了一些关于推荐信的信息。内容大致分为个人信息和推荐两部分。为了使它更好,我们应该努力参加一些考试,如雅思和GRE或GMAT。
      ashrike

    • #9367 Score: 0
      siqij
      参与者

      If you know what a recommendation letter from your teacher will contain, you can prepare for it earlier. In a letter of recommendation, there are usually two main parts. In the first part, the referrer will briefly introduce the relationship between the referrer and the referrer, such as your teacher or your employer. If the referrer is your teacher, this part may be about what courses you have taken and what kind of relationships between you and your teacher, especially how exactly he or she knows about you. In the second part of the recommendation letter, the reason why they recommend you will be mentioned, for example, it is because that you have performed well in a certain course, or you have a strong academic background, or you have a valuable personal quality that impresses them. These materials are drawn from the daily life of you and the recommender, such as the questions you answered in each class, or the further discussion of the course after class, which will make the letter of recommendation profound and vivid. What are the best things to include in your email asking for a recommendation letter? If the teacher is already familiar with you, it’s not surprising that he or she knows you well. If the teacher is not very familiar with you, we can also consider reminding him of your previous interactions with him to deepen his impression. For example, if you have taken one of his courses, or you often ask questions after class, such a reminder can help the teacher who writes the letter of recommendation to quickly establish his impressions on you, it is a good skill. If you ask the teacher for a recommendation letter in the mail, you can attach the CV, transcript, and personal statement to help teachers better understand your application. You can also briefly talk about what skills matter more to apply for your target professionals. In a word, what we can do is to provide more information for teachers, which is convenient for them to come out words to say when writing a letter of recommendation, this can also help you create more opportunities for your own applications.

      如果你了解到老师写的推荐信中大概包含什么内容,就可以早做准备。在一封推荐信中,往往包括两个主要部分:第一部分,这名推荐人会简单的介绍他和被推荐人的关系是什么,比如是你的老师还是工作上的雇主,如果是老师的话,你曾经上过他的什么课,你们之间大概是什么关系,以及他或她到底对你的了解有多少。在第二部分,推荐信往往写到他们推荐你的原因,比如你在某个课程上表现优秀,或者你的学术背景非常强,又或者你的某一项珍贵的个人品质让他刮目相看。这些内容的素材都来自于你与推荐人日常生活的点点滴滴,比如每一次上课你回答的问题,或者下课后对于课程的进一步探讨,这些内容都会让这封推荐信变得深刻而生动起来。在你发给老师的索要推荐信邮件中,应该包含哪些内容比较好呢?如果这名老师已经和你非常熟悉,那么自然不用说他对你的了解。如果这名老师对你没有非常熟悉,那么咱们也可以“贴心“的提示他,你之前和他有过的交集,加深他的印象。比如你曾经上过他的某一门课,或者在课后总是经常问问题,在这样的提示下,可以帮助写推荐信的老师迅速建立对你的印象,这也是一个很好的技巧。在你向老师索要推荐信的邮件中,我们可以贴心的附上CV,成绩单,还有你的个人陈述,帮助老师更好的了解你的申请经历,你也可以简单的说明你申请的专业更看重什么技能,总之,我们可以做的是为推荐老师提供更多的信息,方便他写推荐信的时候有话可说,这也是为自己的申请创造更多的机会。
      siqij

    • #9848 Score: 0
      Tom111
      参与者

      Generally speaking, there are three main factors that influence the strength of a recommendation letter: 1. The background of the recommender (academic reputation). 2. The degree of recommendation must be strongly pushed 3. The relationship you have with your reference (a strong relationship allows you to write more details and be more persuasive)
      一般来说,影响推荐信力度的主要有三个因素:1、推荐人的背景(学术声望)。 2、推荐的程度,一定要是强推。 3、你和推荐人之间的关系(关系紧密,才有更多细节可写,更有说服力)
      https://www.zhihu.com/question/23090759
      Tom111

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